Seeking a better balance between state, religion

TEHRAN, Iran · What if a theocracy and a democracy had a baby? What would it look like? It would look like Iran.

What makes Iran so interesting is that it's not a real democracy, but it's not a real Islamic theocracy either. It is, though, just enough of a democracy for many Iranians to know that they want more of it, and just enough of an Islamic theocracy for many Iranians to know they want less of it.

And if you listen to what's going on behind all the noise here, what you find are a lot of thinkers, both democrats and religious conservatives, looking for a way to synthesize these two aspirations.

You find democratic reformers who have learned from the shah's failed attempt at imposed secularism, and from the past 23 years of Islamic rule, that no democracy will take root in Iran that doesn't find a respected place for Islam.

And you find religious thinkers who have also learned from the last 23 years that Iranians have lived through enough incompetent clerics trying to run a government -- and trying to tell people what they should wear, think and speak -- to know that Islam can't regulate every aspect of a nation's life in the modern age without producing a backlash. Many young Iranians are now running away from the mosques and dislike clerics so much that some mullahs take off their turbans and robes when they walk around certain neighborhoods, to avoid being insulted or harassed.

But precisely because Iran is this crazy semi-democracy (unlike Iraq or Saudi Arabia) -- precisely because people here get arrested every day for speaking out, then go to prison and write books, then get released, then run for Parliament, speak out, start a reformist newspaper and get arrested again -- there is a lively debate about how to find a better balance between state and religion.

One day I went to see Amir Mohebian, the political editor of Ressalat, a religious conservative newspaper, who told me: "At the time of the revolution we offered certain [religious] values to the society in a maximalist way. … Now we are witnessing a backlash. So I am proposing a new definition for an Islamic society. In this definition we won't try converting people into religious people. We just don't want to have a deviant society. If we go on pressing for maximalist religious values, we will increase the gap between the generations. If we articulate a minimalist definition, we can have a lot in common with the new generation."

The same day I visited Mohsen Sazgara, a former aide to Ayatollah Khomeini, now a reformer, who is opening a paper staffed by and directed at Iranian students. He said: "We believed that we would overthrow the shah and establish a new government, an Islamic government, that would show the world a new way. But what we did after the victory of the revolution was not a new way. We did not succeed in marrying democracy and Islam. That led to the reform movement … But it has failed, because it had no constitutional power. In the Constitution there was a religious authority above everything that could always block changes. So now we have to push for real constitutional democracy -- not religious democracy but real democracy, with a respected place for religion under it."

Such a synthesis will take a long time to play out here. For now, the Islamic regime is still deeply entrenched, thanks to oil money that can buy friends, and an iron fist that can crush all domestic foes. The hard-line clerics will not give way easily, and they are not afraid to make enemies abroad, because tensions help them militarize Iranian society and shut down criticism. Yet even the hard-line clerics seem to realize that they cannot survive indefinitely on coercion alone, which is why they let the debate go on.

It's ironic that the war of ideas that the West hoped would be fought in the Arab Muslim world after Sept. 11 -- a war against the Islamic fascism of Osama bin Laden that would be waged by Arabs offering a democratic, Islamic, progressive alternative -- has not happened, because there is not enough democracy in most places there for that war to even begin. But it is being fought in Iran -- not in response to Sept. 11, but in response to Iran's own bad experiences with secular despotism and religious despotism.

Wish them well. If Iranian thinkers and politicians were ever to blend constitutional democracy with a redefined Islam that limits itself to inspiring social norms, not running a state, it could have a positive impact on the whole Muslim world, from Morocco to Indonesia, that Iran's Islamic revolution never had.

Write to Thomas L. Friedman at The New York Times, 229 W. 43rd St., New York, NY 10036