Taliban Calls for Talks With U.S.; White House Rebuffs Offer

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, Sept. 19 — The leader of Afghanistan's Taliban government expressed a willingness today to talk with the United States about Osama bin Laden, whom the Americans want handed over as their prime suspect in the attacks last week on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

The Taliban leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar, extended the offer in a speech read to hundreds of hard-line Islamic clerics meeting in Kabul to decide how to respond to the American demand that they hand over Mr. bin Laden and top lieutenants in his terrorist organization, Al Qaeda.

"We have not tried to create friction with America," Mullah Omar said. "We have had several talks with the present and past American governments and we are ready for more talks."

In the same speech, he accused the United States of using Mr. bin Ladin as a pretext for organizing an attack on Afghanistan because it was the world's "true Islamic state."

"We appeal to the American government to exercise complete patience," he said later, "and we want America to gather complete information and find the real culprits." It was unclear whether the Taliban's offer to talk was genuine or merely a rhetorical stall for time.

The text of Mullah Omar's remarks was carried by the Reuters news agency.

In Washington, the Bush administration brushed aside the Taliban leader's offer. "The president's message to the Taliban is very simple," the White House spokesman, Ari Fleischer, said. "It's time for action, not negotiations."

President Bush, Mr. Fleischer said, wanted the Taliban "to take the actions necessary to no longer harbor terrorists — whatever form it takes."

Mullah Omar contended that neither Afghanistan nor Mr. bin Laden were involved in the terrorist attacks in the United States, which have left more than 5,600 people missing or dead.

In his speech, Mullah Omar reiterated the Taliban's contention that Mr. bin Laden, who lives under its protection in Afghanistan, was in no position to mastermind the terrorist attacks in the United States.

"Our Islamic state is the true Islamic state in the world and for this reason the enemies of our religion and our countries look on us as a thorn in their eyes and use different pretexts to try to finish it, including the one about the presence of Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan," his speech said.

"They put the blame for Washington and New York on him," the Taliban leader continued. "The question is, how did Osama tell the pilots? And which airports did they use? And whose planes were those? The answer is that it is America.

"In this regard, Afghanistan does not have the resources and neither does Osama have the strength and resources. He is not in contact with anyone and neither have we given permission to use the Afghan land against anyone.

"We have told America that we have taken all resources from Osama and he cannot contact the outside world," the Taliban leader said. "And we have told America that neither the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan or Osama are involved in the American events. But it is sad that America does not listen to our word."

Mullah Omar, who generally avoids public appearances, told the clerics that he sought their guidance in proclaiming a "fatwa" — an edict binding on Muslims under Islamic law — in the event of an American-led assault on Afghanistan.

"We assure the world that neither Osama nor anyone else can use the Afghan land against anyone else," Mulla Omar said. He then added that "if even after this, America wants to use force and wants to attack Afghanistan, and wants to destroy the Islamic emirate, we seek your guidance and a fatwa on the issue in the light of Islamic Sharia."

The clerics' decision is not expected before at least Thursday.

The Taliban has set conditions for future American support to Taliban rule in Afghanistan that make a peaceful end to the crisis seem increasingly unlikely. Their demands included diplomatic recognition, a cutoff of all support for the Taliban's opponents and a resumption of economic aid.

After a second meeting with Mullah Omar, high-ranking military officers from Pakistan flew home on Tuesday from two days of negotiations in Kandahar and Kabul and told associates in Islamabad that there were conflicting attitudes that made the outcome somewhat uncertain.

On balance, though, the officers said Taliban hard-liners seemed likely to prevail in their refusal to give up Mr. bin Laden, whatever the risk. According to an account relayed by the officers after their return, they bluntly warned Mullah Omar and other high-ranking clerics about the readiness of the United States to use its military power to settle the matter, if necessary. But the Taliban leaders remained obdurate, even serene.

"You want to please America, and I want only to please God," Mullah Omar, a one-eyed veteran of the Muslim guerrilla struggle against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980's, said as he bade farewell to the Pakistani officers, according to this account.

By stretching out the deliberations, the Taliban leaders appeared to be hoping that events outside Afghanistan would evolve in ways that would frustrate President Bush in his repeatedly stated intention of capturing or killing Mr. bin Laden for the part American investigators believe he played in the attacks on the United States last week.

The Taliban's hopes seemed to rest mainly with Pakistan, identified by the Bush administration as a vital base for any American military operation. Events today brought new signs that Pakistan's involvement could set off a major domestic crisis.

Pakistan's military ruler, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, who has promised "full support" to an American military operation, faced a mounting challenge on two fronts. Along Pakistan's borders with Afghanistan, relief officials reported that fears of a military showdown had set off a "mass exodus" from Afghanistan's Taliban-controlled cities.

In another development that threatened the stability of this Muslim nation of 140 million people, a hard-line Islamic cleric in Karachi who condemned the terrorist attacks in the United States as "wrong" for killing innocent people changed tack abruptly and issued a religious decree, or fatwa, calling for a "holy war" against an American military operation from Pakistan and against General Musharraf.